Re: OT: WAY WAY OT: Re: OT: Re: What? the clean-shaven

En réponse à Stone Gordonssen :


>Interesting. I can't say that I've ever heard that phrase used, though I do
>tend to hang with a more masculine crowd.
I kind of guessed that from your photo on YUM :)) .

>  I do know many gays who take great
>offense at the phrase "straight acting".
Me for instance. Because it is meaningless: the fact that I'm not a queen
doesn't mean I'm imitating straight people (and the only behaviour that I
can imagine really being straight is flirting with women ;))) ).


> From my own experience, I do know there were exceedingy few if any
>non-effeminate gay role models in the USA prior to the 70's.  This, more
>than religious oppression*, affected my own identity: I knew I was atrtacted
>to men, but if gays were only effemnitae, then I must be bi even though I'd
>never been attracted sexually to a woman.
My partner (who becomes 45 next Saturday) told me a similar story. The
first time he ever went in a gay bar (at a time when you first had to use a
public phone to warn the bartender you were arriving, so that he would open
the door at the moment you're there and nobody would see you), he saw an
old (I mean, he was 16 at that time, and the guy must have been 65)
extremely effeminate man at the bar, and thought immediately that if that
was being gay when you get older, he didn't want to be gay at all!! :)))
Luckily for me he didn't keep to that ;))) .

>  Only in the 80's, after I moved to
>a larger city, did this change for me. I'm ashamed to admit that I still
>feel uncomfortible around effeminate men (this is one of my problems, not
>one of theirs).
I actually don't have any problem with effeminate men (my first boyfriend
was so). I have problems with those who willingly exaggerate the feminine
trait. Still, I stay a Will-type rather than a Jack-type ;)))) .

>As I've always preferred older men (the illusion and allusion of wisdom?), I
>can clearly remember more than one telling me how much he envied me as I had
>more choices than he did re: my sexual identity.
Because you tend to have more older men than younger men around? :))
Personally I never really had a preference in age. It just happens that my
partner is 18 years older than me, but when I met him I thought he was
hardly a few years older (he looks *extremely* young for his age :) ).

Christophe Grandsire.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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