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Re: CHAT: new names (was: Re: Bopomofo and pinyin)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Sunday, January 23, 2000, 22:44
Daniel:
> I have in fact a similar question. My mom's maiden name was > _Sagelid_ and I could change my surname to it if I wanted to. > My grandfather came up with it because every other guy where > he lived had _Johansson_ as surname. > > It's very nice in Swedish, but how does it sound for a non-Swede? > And how'd y'all pronounce it (if you didn't know I was Swedish)?
/'seIdZlId/. Or, if known to be nonenglish, /'sA:g@lId/. I suppose if you could concoct some Greek etymology, _sagelis, sagelides_ for it and then it would be /'s&dZ@lId/, with derived forms such as _sagelidal_ /s@'dZelIdl/. In Livagian: [sagElid@], fall tone on sa, lo tone on the rest. BP:
> May I perhaps use you fellas as Guinea-pigs for a name that I and my > wife-to-be consider taking when we marry? > > How would you pronounce _Ryttervik_ in your various natlangs? Especially: > where would you place the stress?
/'rIt@v@k/. RP /'rIt@vIk/. FWIW (1) If it was properly English it'd be /'rIt@wItS/ or /'rIt@wIdZ/, _Ritterwich_. (2) In Livagian it would, if thus spelt, be [r@ j@ t'@ t'e r@ vi k'@]. with lo tone on all vowels. A phonologically licit string, but not a possible word. (3) [irrelevant remark about Ytterbium deleted] (4) I learn from Lars that what in my head had always been /'m&t@s@n/ is, englished up a bit, /m@'ti@s@n/, so I might sort of hazard a wild guess that all foreign lgs work alike and try [ryt:'ervik]. My wife & I considered changing -- anglicizing -- the family name to _Rocester_, /'rOst@/. She was all for it, but I was wiser about the hassles name changes cause, & vetoed it, tho I liked the idea. [I'm a fan of choosing one's own name, & take credit for nurturing at least 2 friends' name changes through the phase where others exhibit outraged recalcitrance, but experience has shown me that endless hassles arise when one is known under multiple names.] --And.