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Re: maggelish spelling reform (wasRe: english spelling reform)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Sunday, October 20, 2002, 13:48
En réponse à Tim May <butsuri@...>:

> > > Of course, but my way you save a word. >
Hence the abbreviations L and P :) .
> > > I don't recall seeing any, but I can imagine it, and wouldn't be > surprised to learn that it is available. >
Of course, but it's obviously rare.
> > Besides, we're measuring a distance here, not a displacement. And > even if we _were_ measuring the displacement from the top left to > bottom right, that would make the y coordinate negative - I don't see > how it suggests that the order should be reversed. >
Turn your coordinates 90 degrees in the sense of the clock. Your x-positive coordinates go down, and your y-positive coordinates go right. Both order and sign fit, while keeping Cartesian coordinates and having an origin at the top left hand corner. And the order to give the coordinates stays vertical- horizontal while corresponding to x-y.
> > > There's no intrinsic reason why the two standards shouldn't agree, is > there?
They do in fact, just with another orientation. It's just an unfortunate difference of convention. When is
> this convention of measuring from the top left of a page used, anyway?
Everywhere precise typographic positioning is needed. Since pages are more often printed from top to bottom than from bottom to top, it's just logical that the origin has been chosen on top of the paper (and on the left since we write left-to-right).
> I've never come across it. >
Everywhere I've seen physical coordinates used on paper, they always begin at the top left hand corner. It's not much needed anymore with computers and such, but at the time you had to put lead types on a plank to print, and you usually began with the beginning, the top left hand corner, it's just logic that it should be used as origin of the coordinates. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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