Re: maggelish spelling reform (wasRe: english spelling reform)
From: | bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...> |
Date: | Monday, October 21, 2002, 10:36 |
--- Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> wrote: > En réponse à
Tristan <kesuari@...>:
>
> > >
> > Are you sure? I'm 99% positive you're supposed to
> cite paper sizes
> > length by width...
> >
>
> Pretty sure yes. When I still lived in Paris I went
> often to a special paper
> store (because of my "job" at the school's
> newspaper).
>
> > >
> > You presumably never saw the paper used in primary
> school in Australia
> > when learning how to write, then. Always landscape
> (and ruled in
> > thirds... i.e. one solid line, two dotted lines,
> one solid line, two
> > dotted lines etc., with the solid line being the
> baseline, the first
> > dotted line above that being the x-height, and the
> second being the
> > ascender height).
> >
>
> What a strange kind of paper! In France we learn to
> write on portrait paper
> (usually A5 size notebooks) lined in a very special
> way:
> - A grid of 8x8mm squares in blue "thick" (not very
> thick but thicker than the
> other lines) lines. This grid doesn't make the whole
> page. There is a left
> margin delimited by a red very thick line, at about
> 3 centimeters from the left
> side of the paper, as well as a top and bottom
> margins (about two and a half
> and 1 and a half centimeter wide respectively). Only
> the horizontal lines
> continue on the left margin, and only the vertical
> lines on the top and bottom
> margins. There is no right margin (the grid carries
> on until the paper limit).
> - A set of horizontal thin blue lines, separated by
> 2mm. Thus there are always
> 3 thin lines in each square. The first lines at the
> top margin are 3 thin and
> one thick. The last lines at the bottom margin are
> one thick and two thin.
>
> The horizontal thick lines are the baselines. The
> first thin line over is for
> the x-height, the second for the t-height and the
> third for the l-height (yes,
> in French we learn to write letters with two
> different ascender heights. The t-
> height is only for t and d, and also to position
> accents. All other letters
> with ascenders use the l-height, which is because we
> always write them with
> loops. Capital letters also use the l-height).
> Descenders always go down two
> thin lines. So the longest letter, f, as an ascender
> of 6mm and a descender of
> 4mm on this kind of paper. That's also why the first
> baseline has three thin
> lines over, while the last has two thin lines under.
> And we are not allowed to
> write in the left margin (it is there for the
> teacher to give comments).
>
ah yes, french schoolhand. looks a lot nicer than
british schoolhand, but i imagine it corrupts even
more
i always learnt with paper with one set of lines. they
started off very wide in primary school, and got
thinner as we got older. i now always use unlined
paper, altho when i was at school i took to using thin
lined paper ( 8 mm lines ) and writing on alternate
lines
bn
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bnathyuw | landan | arR
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