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Re: Tolkien language(s) question

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Thursday, September 4, 2003, 5:41
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From: "John Cowan" <cowan@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Tolkien language(s) question

> Mark J. Reed scripsit: > > > Sindarin:Quenya :: Italian:Latin. Which is why Frodo got a laugh when > > he greeted the Elves in Quenya, like the modern tourist who tries to use > > Latin in Rome ("Been a while since your last visit, has it?"). > > I think it was his accent (ei and ou for ee and oo). He was talking to > High-Elves, who were originally Quenya-speakers, though they shifted > to Sindarin as their usual language thousands of years before. However, > it is quite likely that some of the Elves Frodo is talking to still > remember speaking Quenya. Sound-change in Elvish languages is not > generational, but a deliberate act of individuals. > > As someone else has pointed out, Sindarin is the much-changed descendant > of Telerin, a sibling of Quenya. The best analogue I think is > French to Classical Latin, since French is the much-changed descendant > of a sibling to Classical Latin, namely Vulgar Latin.
Quenya is the language of the Noldor, right? At least, the Noldor who came into Middle-Earth spoke it. I think whoever said Old Church Slavonic:Russian was the closest.
> -- > If you understand, John Cowan > things are just as they are; > if you do not understand, > things are just as they are. >