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Re: preferred voices?

From:Irina Rempt <ira@...>
Date:Saturday, September 23, 2000, 22:39
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, nicole perrin wrote:

> Are any of your conlangs prejudiced against the passive voice?
Valdyan doesn't really have a passive voice, only a pseudo-passive expressed by an impersonal construction: val.nute custien lea disut king.child-nom-s frog-ill-s IMP change-PRT-3s "The prince turned into a frog" or "The prince was turned into a frog"; the prince's ranification was either spontaneous or caused by person or persons unknown. We don't know, and we couldn't care less. This kind of construction is quite usual and there's no prejudice against it. Quite the contrary, in fact; I've just discovered that it's also used when an inanimate subject appears where an animate one is expected: or.sean val.nutea custien lea disut magic.thing-acc-s king.child-acc-s frog-ill-s IMP change-PRT-3s "The spell turned the prince into a frog" Note that the impersonal construction takes a double accusative: both the logical subject and the logical object. This is probably because _lea_ is considered to be the grammatical subject, and all other actants must be objects. I'm writing something elaborate about this, which will appear on my web page along with the things about the old woman who walked without a stick and the people who didn't go to the market. Irina -- Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. irina@valdyas.org (myself) http://www.valdyas.org/irina/valdyas