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YAEPT tune, new et al.

From:Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 22:18
Mark J. Reed/Gary Shannon wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Gary Shannon wrote: > > Hence "nooB" for "newbie". I remember my parents and > > grandparents including the glide, but not my > > generation (b.1945 US midwest).
Interesting. My parents and grandparents were native Midwesterners (Iowa/South Dakota) and they did not have the glide; nor do I, nor did any of my little schoolmates way back when. In fact my grandfather used to parody it-- when I was called upon to perform on the piano, he'd say, "play us a [tSu:n]!" In fact, out there in those days it may even have been stigmatized, as a feature of snooty upper-class/Eastern speech. New York was a decadent Sin City, and Wall Street truly an abomination. Similarly with the /w/::/W/ distinction. I'm sure if anyone in my grade school had mispronounced /W/ as [w], various battle-axe teachers would have been all over him/her.