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Re: not un-/anti-passive

From:Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>
Date:Friday, June 20, 2008, 12:10
Isn't this sort of thing usually called the 'Ethical Dative' for some weird reason,
or is this something else altogether?

-Elliott


--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:

> From: Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> > Subject: Re: not un-/anti-passive > To: CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu > Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 7:22 AM > Hi! > > ROGER MILLS writes: > > Basque, IIRC, has a construction in intimate speech > where you insert a > > 2nd or 3d pers. dative marker into the auxiliary (in > addition to > > subject and object), which indicates that somehow the > statement is of > > interest to, or concerns, that person, or even simply > that speaker > > somehow wants to involve the other in the statement. > The translations > > offered made it rather difficult to see exactly what > was going on :-( > > And I forget what the grammar book called it. > "Dative of interest? > > Dative of reference?" or some such. > > Latin and German have that, too. > > German: > > Komm mir nicht zu spät nach Hause! > come me_DAT not too late to home > 'Don't come late home!' > > 'mir' is this kind of dative object. > > As for Latin examples, someone else might want to help me > out. > > **Henrik