Re: Rating Languages
| From: | Herman Miller <hmiller@...> |
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| Date: | Thursday, September 27, 2001, 2:25 |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:43:24 -0400, Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> wrote:
>That's true of any of the unaspirated stops. BUT, at least for me,
>there's no aspiration in "back", for instance. If it were true that /g/
>= [k], then "back" and "bag" should sound the same. But, voiced stops
>are, as Tom pointed out, generally partially voiced in English, [bp],
>[dt], [gk] in essence.
"Voiced" stops in English also lengthen preceding vowels slightly, and (at
least for me) there's a bit of an [E]-glide in final -ag (but I also
aspirate final -k in "back", at least in some contexts...). So even without
the aspiration, you can tell /k/ and /g/ apart. But when I took an
articulatory phonetics class back in the late '80s, I had a much harder
time learning to hear [k] as something other than [g] than I had with the
other voiceless aspirated stops. When I recorded the "kim" sample on my
Gjarrda page (http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/Gjarrda/spelling.html), I
pronounced it [skim] and edited out the "s".
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