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Re: Rating Languages

From:David Peterson <digitalscream@...>
Date:Friday, September 28, 2001, 2:29
In a message dated 9/27/01 6:41:33 PM, fortytwo@GDN.NET writes:

<< Speaking of English, has anyone else encountered "be staying" for
"live"?  E.g., "I'm staying at the Avenues [an apartment complex]"  I
don't think I've encountered it used for a place that you own, it might
be restricted to rental situations.  Still, I'd use "live" in those
cases. >>

    Well, I use this a lot at college, because I'm only staying at these
places during the school year.

<<> 3.) I'll eat (promisary): "You're going to eat your vegetables, right?"
"Yes,
> mom, I'll eat them." > 10.) I'll eat (conditional): "I'll eat if you get me something." (Here the > emphasis is on the action taking
I think these are the same. You're promising to eat *IF* that condition is met.>> I think they emphasize different things. <<I will've eaten sounds odd to me. I'd say either I'll've eaten or I'll have eaten or I will have eaten.>> Really? I say it all the time! ~:D <<21. Obligation: I must/have to/gotta eat 22. Semi-obligation?: I should eat, I oughta eat>> Yeah, here I decided to draw the line, since I would have had to have gone into each conjugation for each, then there's "can", and "enjoy", "love", "want", "wish", etc. "Should" I characterize as "Someone's told me I have to do it, but I'm not going to do it"; "must" I characterize as "I feel personally obligated to do this"; "have to/have got to" is the general obligative; "ought" I characterize as "I know it's better for me if I do it, but I'm still not going to". <<Oh! And a fairly major one 23. Past habitual?: I used to eat: "He used to eat meat, until he became a vegetarian" And its negative: I didn't used to eat>> I have no idea how I left this out! I even included it in my original e-mail, if you go back and check. As for it's negative, that's something that could have doubled the number of entries.

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Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>