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Re: Rating Languages

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 25, 2001, 0:54
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:15:30 +0200, Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> wrote:

>Among the languages I've tried to learn, until now the most difficult was >Arabic, because of it throat-cutting phonology. Nevertheless, I found the >grammar and the syntax quite easy. Even the so-called "broken" plurals were not >much more difficult than the irregular preterites of English.
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>Until now, the only language that resisted even an approach from me was Hindi, >and it's the alphabet that put me off. Devanagari is beautiful, but I cannot >recognize a single letter out of it, how hard I try to. Even the Arabic script >is simpler for me (and I'm not talking about the Armenian alphabet which looks >to me like a single letter repeated X times). Maybe if I could learn it in >transcription I would discover that it's not that difficult.
Hmm... the Arabic alphabet is one I've never really learned to read well: too many of the letters are similar (especially ghayn and fa, in the middle of a word), and the small print in some of the books I've tried to use doesn't help. I haven't even tried learning to read Arabic text without vowels. But I didn't have as much trouble with Devanagari. It'd be interesting to put together a list of the features of various languages that are considered difficult (at least to English speakers). Here's a few examples I can think of (not all of these are languages I've actually tried to learn, but at least ones I know something about -- and it's nowhere near a complete list of "difficult" features, just a few that come to mind). Ancient Greek: verb conjugations. Arabic: tricky alphabet, short vowels unwritten, emphatic consonants. Chinese: writing system, tones. Finnish: noun declension, consonant gradation. Georgian: consonant clusters. Irish: spelling, initial consonant mutation. Japanese: writing system, levels of politeness, syntax. Korean: "tense" consonants. Russian: palatalized consonants, perfective vs. imperfective verb stems. Thai: no spaces between words, complicated spelling of tones. Tibetan: spelling. Vietnamese: unfamiliar vowels, tones. Zulu: clicks. -- languages of Azir------> ---<http://www.io.com/~hmiller/lang/index.html>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any @io.com email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin

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