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Re: Rating Languages

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 26, 2001, 19:53
From: "David Peterson" <DigitalScream@...>
> In a message dated 9/26/01 3:58:05 AM, dnsulani@ZAHAV.NET.IL writes: > > << Most of the time, when I treat this difficulty, > the client has no problems with the voiceless sounds and needs to be
taught
> how to produce the voiced equivalents. Although the opposite problem > (no voiceless sounds) is not unknown to me. >> > > That'd be because voiceless sounds are far less common and harder to > produce. In fact, my phonology professor has argued (with PRAAT data to
back
> it up), that there is, in fact, no [g] in English, but, rather, [k]
without
> aspiration. For instance, he took the [k] in "skum" and removed it and > placed it in front of the syllable "un" and it sounded EXACTLY like "gun". > It was creepy...
That feels backwards. I mean, the aspiration and not the voicing is basically what English-speakers use to differentiate pairs like <k> and <g>, so that [k] is heard as an allophone of /g/ and not /k_h/, but I don't know that [k] is said for /g/ to the exclusion of [g]. (At least, I'm pretty sure I don't say it. I actually have trouble saying unaspirated stops like in "Tao" when speaking English. But in Spanish I don't have any problem.) *Muke!