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Re: state of flow in conlang (was Re: Ke'kh - degrees of volition)

From:Ajin-Kwai <wpii@...>
Date:Monday, September 25, 2000, 15:54
draqa has a set of derivational particles that describe a strong
subjective experience.  It is hard to explain, but I'd think of it as
similar to your state of flow concept, because it involves a totally
subjective immersion in the experience at hand:

-toi    strong subjective experience
-pir    strong subjective negative experience
-miu    strong subjective positive experience

So, with: liu 'beauty' ; jaka 'violence' ; heiduia 'singing'

ia liutoi:      I am immersed in a strong subjective experience of beauty.
i jakapir:      Suffering a deep subjective immersion in a violent
                  experience.
i heiduiamiu:   Deeply and blissfully immersed in experiencing the act of
                  singing.

These meanings would imply being caught up in the flow of things, unified
with the experience.  These particles can be attached to any root, so you
could also say:

mehi 's/he/it'

ia mehimiu:     I beautifully and strongly experience him/her.


a liu,
.yasmin.



On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:

> > > > > >Does anyone else here have state of flow grammaticalized in their > > >conlang? > > > > "Flow" is not an aspect, but a state of mind: you enjoy doing something > such that you don't want to stop. People in a state of flow often > forget > about time and other things around them, and spend more time on it > than they were intending to spend on it. It is something like a trance, > but a _conscious_ trance. A state of intrinsic motivation. Hard to > explain > in a few words. > > This is in a sense both a lower and a higher degree of volition than > simple volitionality. Lower because the subject has less "control" > of the action; higher because he/she not only acts out of free will, > but really *enjoys* what he/she is doing. > > I admit that this is a difficult concept, and grammaticalizing it in a > language > probably requires a culture where self-realization and creativity are > held > to be very important, as they are among the Elves of Kemr. > > Joerg. >