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Re: Unilang: the Phonology

From:Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 3:47
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Peterson wrote:

> If you're looking for opinions, I have one (among several). First off, I > think if you really truly wanted to make a truly universal language for > everyone, you'd have to leave all liquids out completely. In languages that > have some sort of a trill or flap (or approximant), the pronunciation is to > varied to give it one orthographic representation. But, you did mention > this, so let's say that's all right. What about native speakers of Chinese > and Korean whose closet approximation is [l]? And then what about the > languages that have no [l], where the sound [l] has changed to [d] over time > or [w] or even [n] I've heard of? I would leave [f] out, too, due to its > odd, labio-dental nature. But, that's just me.
I know for *Korean* speakers [f] is often rendered as [p] or [h] (there's possibly some sort of rule, but I don't know offhand). Minor factual correction, though: Korean has an alveolar tap *and* [l], and I've heard both used for the American (and other?) English approximant "r"; the [l] is a somewhat less frequent sounds that mostly happens due to certain mutations. YHL