" ,Language' in language name" and "My languages"
From: | wayne chevrier <wachevrier@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 29, 2001, 18:03 |
Roger Mills nevesht:
>Steg Belsky wrote:
>
>
> >On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:35:42 -0500 wayne chevrier
> ><wachevrier@...> writes:
> >> lisan<arabic "tongue,language" and ek,do,tre<Farsi(1,2,3)
> >> -wayne Chevrier
> >-
> >
> >In my Arabic class we were taught to use the word /luGah/ for
> >"language"... is there a difference between /luGah/ and /lisan/?
> >
>Confusingly, my Indonesian dictionary gives: 1. tongue, followed by an ex.
>where it means 'oral' (opp. written); 2. speech, language, with an ex.
>where
>it means 'colloquial'. Nice lexicography! A verb form, me/lisan/kan means
>'to recite'.
'lisan' specifically means 'tongue' as in the body part, with later obvious
extension to 'language'
Yoon Ha Lee nevesht:
>On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 10:01 , wayne chevrier wrote:
>
> > I have already posted on Lisanek, so I would to mention my other
>projects,
> > which are more sketches than anything else.
> >
>Sketches are good. :-)
>
> > Lisando:(the name is provinsional)
> >
>(You mean provisional? <G>)
of course :)
>
> > five genders:
> > divine: gods, groves, springs, weather, priests, chiefs, smiths(and
>their
> > tools), herbs, ceremonies, certain animals, ritual objects, etc.
> > dangerous: adult human males(except in insults), weapons, carnivores,
> > dangerous bits of landscape, wild boars, etc.
> > domestic: all humans not already mentioned, tools, houses, fleas, etc.
> > edible: plants and animals eaten for food(except herbs and sacrificed
> > animals)
> > other: everything else
> > SVO, verbs have object prefix and subject suffix
> >
>I like your gender system--it looks quite practical-minded. :-) I
>especially like the "divine" and "dangerous" categories. How are indirect
>object-like things handled?
I'm not sure, probably serial verbs
>
>If you develop your sketches further, post! Post! <manic yet somehow
>friendly grin>
Of course.
Nik Taylor nevesht:
>wayne chevrier wrote:
> > five genders:
> > divine: gods, groves, springs, weather, priests, chiefs, smiths(and
>their
> > tools), herbs, ceremonies, certain animals, ritual objects, etc.
> > dangerous: adult human males(except in insults), weapons, carnivores,
> > dangerous bits of landscape, wild boars, etc.
> > domestic: all humans not already mentioned, tools, houses, fleas, etc.
> > edible: plants and animals eaten for food(except herbs and sacrificed
> > animals)
> > other: everything else
>
>Oh, that's cool! Any reason why smiths are considered Divine? I like
>how men are "dangerous". Kind of the reverse of that Australian
>language whose name escapes me that has "Women, fire, and dangerous
>things" :-)
>
Yes, that was the inspiration. Smiths are divine because they create things,
and there is a lot of ritual involved.
>So, if something could fall into more than one of these, I take it that
>the first on the list is applied?
>
Yes, exactly
-Wayne Chevrier
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