Re: sabyuka : consonants, orthography, and a few things more

julien eychenne wrote:
> p  t  ts  tS  k
>       tl      kw
> b  d      dZ
> m  n
> f  T  s   S    h*
>    r  l
> v\         j
Neat.  So, is tl a lateral affricate?

> /t/ --> |t|
> /ts/ --> |tz|
> /tS/ --> |c|
> /dZ/ --> |j|
> /j/ --> |y|
> Notes :
>   - /ts/ is really problematic to me, because I want my system to be
> first aesthetic, /ts/ might be in every position, especially final. I
> had thought of |ç| and |z|, but I finally decided for |tz| : please tell
> me if you have any better idea :)
Is there any reason why {ts} won't work?  That would be my choice, if
there's nothing to rule it out.

Another possibility might be {c} = /ts/ {ch} = /tS/.

Incidentally, I use ç in an alternate romanization of my conlang to
indicate /C/ (voiceless palatal fricative).  It's good that you decided
against it, since characters outside of 7-bit ASCII can get mangled by
some mail readers.

Also, I'd use {j} for /j/ (to free up {y}, see below) and maybe {dz} for
/dZ/.  Using {j} for /j/ does make it difficult to come up with an
intuitive transcription of /dZ/.

Of course, if there's no contrast between /i/ and /j/, you can simply
use {i} for /j/ and {j} can stay as {dZ}

> Here is the transliteration of the vowel system :
> /i/ --> |i|
> /e/ --> |e|
> /ei/ --> |ê|
> /@/ --> |à|
> /a/ --> |a|
> /a@/ --> |â|
Interesting diphthong.

> /u/ --> |u|
> /o/ --> |o|
> /ou/ --> |ô|
I would've chosen {ei} and {ou} for /ei/ and /ou/, and {y} for /@/ with
{ay} or (more esthetic, IMO) {aa} for /a@/.  Anything outside of 7-bit
ASCII is in danger of getting mangled.  Welsh uses {y} in that way,
incidentally, as do at least a few conlangs.

Another possibility, if there's no danger of ambiguity, is /@/ = {a} /a/
= {ah} /a@/ = {aa}.  If vowel sequences don't occur, and /h/ can't occur
syllable-finally, then that would work, or you could just use the
apostrophe to disambiguate.

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