Re: OT DID & idolect
|From:||R A Brown <ray@...>|
|Date:||Friday, January 20, 2006, 7:31|
Tristan McLeay wrote:
> R A Brown wrote:[snip]
>> You're are quite correct. Thanks for the clear explanation. I think in
>> popular usage there is much confusion over these terms, and I was
>> certainly guilty of this.
>> I assume from your description of schizophrenia above that there are
>> different degrees of schizophrenia. Certainly towards the end of his
>> life my father was given to hallucination, which seem to get
>> progressively worse; there was indeed a split between his reality and
>> that which others perceived. But there was certainly no identity
> My description above was only very superficial. Your father very likely
> did *not* suffer from schizophrenia, because other criteria are
> involved. Schizophrenia is diagnosed only if a particular set of
> patterns involving defects in the perception or expression of reality
> are met. In general, men who have schizophrenia are first diagnosed in
> their early twenties (women tend to first show it in their late
> twenties/early thirties, I think, maybe later as well).
Ah! Not in their late 80s then?
> For instance, the hallucinations involved in schizophrenia are almost
> always auditory, occasionally olfactory or tactile but very rarely, if
> ever, visual.
Right - my father's were strictly visual.
> And yes, there are multiple types of schizophrenia:[snip]
> Hope this was interesting---
Yes, it was.
> it's still not complete and not necessarily
> completely accurate (in spite of my intentions and beliefs), but it's as
> good as I can do today without going and doing proper looking arounds :)
I understand - probably need a whole tome to do the subject justice.
>> I wondered if people with DID do exhibit differences in idiolect in
>> their different personae. As this is off-topic, maybe I should first
>> do some Googling on the matter and not add a YAOTT (yet another
>> off-topic thread) to the list. ;)
> Too late!
> Actually, come to think of it, I have a vague recollection of a mention
> of someone who had an American accent in one personality, and an
> Australian one in another---
Now that's quite a difference, especially if both accents were genuine.
Roger Mills wrote:
> Ray Brown wrote:
>>I wondered if people with DID do exhibit differences in idiolect in
>>their different personae. As this is off-topic, maybe I should first do
>>some Googling on the matter and not add a YAOTT (yet another off-topic
>>thread) to the list. ;)
> Well yes, but... :-) (Unless someone has had professional or personal
> experience with the question, we're unlikely to get an authoritative
I just wondered if we did have anyone with personal or professional
experience on the list - one never knows. But, yes, if there are no such
people, then it would simply be unauthoritative guesswork.
Re my father]
> As someone replied, that sounds more like senile dementia (perhaps a
> affect of Alzheimer's?); my late mother had, I think, similar problems.
He did not suffer from loss of memory or from confusion and other
problems with speech and understanding which, as I understand it, are
the symptoms of Alzheimer's - but that he did not experience visual
hallucinations till towards the end of his life does, I agree, sound as
tho they might have foreshadowed the beginnings of senile dementia.
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