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Re: Additional diacritics (was: Phonological equivalent of...)

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, February 8, 2007, 3:31
Henrik Theiling wrote:
> Hi! > > Eric Christopherson writes: >> ... >> And off-topic: Does anyone else think it would make sense to P >> instead of p\ for the voiceless bilabial fricative? The current P, >> the labiodental approximant, already has an alternate symbol, v\, >> which looks more like the actual IPA symbol. (Apologies if this has >> already been addressed!) > > I want to write /P/ all the time, too. The problem is, just as you > write, that /P/ = /v\/ and IIRC, this is X-Sampa. I think > > 1. we probably don't want to break compatibility with X-Sampa > (except for historical cases where it's already done: { and }) > > 2. we probably don't want to *change* CXS, but merely extend it > > Both 1. and 2. to avoid confusion. > > **Henrik
I think /P/ might even go back to original SAMPA. But since v\ makes more sense, is there any reason to use /P/ at all for this sound? It's similar to the situation with ' , which in X-SAMPA represents the same IPA character as _j even though it looks like primary stress (and is often used that way in CXS). I'd just as soon reassign P to the voiceless fricative, since v\ is available for the approximant, and using P for an approximant sound is just plain confusing.