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Re: Natlangs in Fantasy Worlds

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Saturday, November 10, 2007, 9:30
Alex Bicksler wrote:
> I've always noticed that in fantasy worlds such as Tolkien's Middle Earth, English is often > used alongside conlangs. This seems like it would be highly unlikely.
And is surely a misrepresentation. According to Tolkien's conworld, there is *NO* English! Nor are Sindarin, Quenya etc conlangs! Tolkien represents his LotR as a _translation_ into English from _Westron_ (the English name Tolkien gave the language which was actual called _Adûni_ in the Westron language itself, or _Sóval Phârë_ "Common Speech"), leaving the other languages in their original form, with the exception of the language of the Rohirrim of which Tolkien wrote "The language of Rohan I have accordingly made to resemble ancient English since it was ... in comparison with Westron archaic." In other words, in Tolkien's Middle Earth the common language was Westron (_Adûni_), but other _natural_ languages were also used. The LotR is represented as a translation into English of the Middle Earth language __Adûni_, leaving the other _natural languages_ in their original forms (transliterated, of course, into Roman letters) with the exception of the language of the Rohirrim. I see nothing unlikely in all this. What else should Tolkien have done? Leave the whole thing in Westron? Methinks it would not have sold many copies. -- Ray ================================== ================================== Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitudinem.


Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>