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Re: Borrowing (Was Re: Re(2): Marmite and other "unique" foods)

From:Paul Bennett <paul.bennett@...>
Date:Monday, October 4, 1999, 16:08
Padraic writes:
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Paul Bennett wrote:
> Barry writes: > >>>>>> > How do you all incorporate foreign words into your conlangs? Are they just > changed to fit the phonology, or do you do something special to the word > to mark it as foreign (especially when the word matches a words already in > your language)? > <<<<<<
[Snip some mind-boggling examples. Veeeeeeery Nice!]
> sound changes to make it "modern". At this stage, I'm doing this more > "by ear" than by any hard and fast rules, but I'm shaping and hardening > rules as I go.
It's a bit of a chore, but I decided right at the start of looking into Tallarian that I would make an etymological word list. It necessitated sorting out the sound changes first. This has been a great help since Tallarian is an IE language that has borrowed from non-IE languages as well as other IE languages throughout its history. These other languages tend to have quite different sound systems, so for borrowing purposes, having the Tallarian sound system worked out is something of a necessity. <<<<<< Yeah. I'm gonna do that eventually. I want to get the language "working" first, and bodging the lexicon together on an ad-hoc (possibly even ad-lib?) basis is giving me a good feel for the kind of sound-changes that are going to go into "Lexicon v2.0"
>>>>>> > Likewise for other consonants. There are more complex rules than these > at work in certain ill-defined contexts, more research is required. >
Isn't that always the case? :) <<<<<< Hehehe, yup. I'm hoping, however, that I'll be able to fit the rules onto a page of typed text, and put them into Phono (or similar) without too much trouble by the time I've finished bodging everything together. That should make a nice big rootlist easier to come by. There aren't tooooo many unpredictable change rules left for me to puzzle over, thankfully, so the next big hurdle is going to be finding a rootlist for me to base everything on. Someone (Dirk?) pointed me at Gamkrelidze & Ivanov (???), but I don't think I can stretch to it just yet. Maybe, just maybe... ************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. *************************************************************