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Re: Musical notes, was Re: Hot, Cold, and Temperature

From:James Worlton <jworlton@...>
Date:Saturday, March 27, 2004, 23:04
sandat Elyse M. Grasso:
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> > Did European sheet music ever have the high notes on the bottom of the staff > eqivalent?
No. According to my copy of the Harvard Dictionary of Music (2nd ed., 1969--OK it's old, but it was free!!!) p. 578: '...our modern system of notation [is] rooted not in the notational signs of Greek music but in the much vaguer symbols of Greek and Oriental (Jewish) speech recitation, the grammatical accents of the 3nd century B.C., and similar signs known generically as ecphonetic notation. These developed (c. 800?) into a more elaborate system of stenographic symbols vaguely indication the outlines of the melodic movement, the neumes. Far from being "primitive" ... the neumes are a very sensitive and supple means of recording the innumerable finesses of ancient singing...' Neumes developed into ligatures, which when added to a series of horizontal lines gave us Gregorian chant notation, which is closely related to today's system. In all of this if the shapes went up, the pitch did also.
> Do traditional means of recording music in other cultures > (Chinese, Japanese if different from Chinese, Indian/South Asian, Arabic, > whatever) have preferred orientations? (It's annoying being 1000 miles from > my reference books. One more week...) > > Linguistically, did ancient Greek and Latin (or Egyptian or Sumerian, for that > matter) have words for deep and shrill sounds that literally translate to low > and high, as opposed to big and small?
I don't know.
> Actually, I suspect that low and high may be a fairly common metaphor: if you > pile up a bunch of drums with varying pitches, the deeper-toned ones probably > need to be on the bottom if you don't want the pile to fall over.
Indeed. :) -- ============= James Worlton "We know by means of our intelligence that what the intelligence does not comprehend is more real than what it does comprehend." --Simone Weil