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Re: OT: Chance resemblances...

From:Muke Tever <hotblack@...>
Date:Saturday, January 3, 2004, 21:17
E fésto Muke Tever <hotblack@...>:
> E fésto Robert Jung <RobertMJung@...>: >> Japanese <yoi> (/joi/ "good") reminds me of Hungarian /jo:/ (<jo'>). Is >> this a case of "chance resemblance" (as Mark Rosenfelder calls the >> looking-alike of Chinese <ren1> and Quechua <runa>, "person") or is >> there a connection? > > Odds are remarkably slim. Japanese /j/ has a tendency to descend from > *d, for one, and is most likely not in the same family as Hungarian to > begin with. > > Starostin puts Japanese |í-|, |yó-| 'good', from a protoform *dǝ̀- > (Proto-Altaic *di̯òge), related to Korean čō(h)-, Khalkha ʒā, and > Turkish jeɣ, jej. [I suppose those are phonetic representations.]
To balance that, I should mention that the protoform of Magyar jó appears to have been something like *jom. It could be done, but not likely (heck, you even have PIE *yew-os- "right" to throw in too, if you're going for that sort of thing). *Muke! -- http://frath.net/ E jer savne zarjé mas ne http://kohath.livejournal.com/ Se imné koone'f metha http://kohath.deviantart.com/ Brissve mé kolé adâ.

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