Re: BAL (was: Re: TUNU)

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Od: Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>
Do: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...>
Data: 20 listopada 1998 01:40
Temat: Re: BAL (was: Re: TUNU)


>> Anyways, I'd recommend choosing vowels that are common to all of
>> BAL's target languages. So if Finnish and Estonian have simpler
>> vowel inventories than Votic, I suggest choosing their vowels
>> instead.
>>
>
>Alright.  The common Balto-Finnic ( minus Livonian and Veps) vowels are:
>
>(CB again)
>
>@ .ae E i o % u y  (all of which occur long)
>
what is that % is it mid ronded front, and y high rounded front?

>I'll get the common diphthongs up tomorrow or the day after.
>
>> Here are the vowels and diphthongs of Latvian and
>> Danish/Scandinavian.
>>
>> CB ascii-ipa system (as well):
>>
>> *****************************************
>> LATVIAN vowels and diphthongs according to:
>> http://www.goodnet.com/~vanags/skanas.html
>
>Ah! From my friend Uldis' page!  According to him, the written /e/ has
>two values: /e/ and /.ae/
>
>> *******************************************
>> So far, it seems like BAL will not have front rounded vowels since
>> none of the Baltic (Latvian/Lithuanian) languages have them.
>
>I have to agree, knowing that Polish doesn't have them.
>
right!
but i don't find rounded fronts wrong, many baltic languages use them
(swedish, finnish), and i dont find them hard to pronounce, so mighta bee=
n
borrowed
so... i'll agree if the rest want them

>So, tentatively, the pure vowels would be:
>
>a  .ae  E  (e)  i  o  u  [/e/ doesn't exist in Balto-Finnic, so it's
>questionable]
>
>Diphtongs to come later.
>
comparin to polish (well, its vowel system is bit different)
i think about:
a @ E(e) i O(o) u
when 'a' is central (or maybe ae(front) and a(back)???)
and allophones in brackets
i don't like phonemic lenght opposition, but i can live with it... :)

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