Re: New Try from a New Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: New Try from a New Guy


> On Sunday 15 December 2002 3:17 pm, Steg Belsky wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:27:56 +0100 Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
> >
> > writes:
> > > --- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Michael David Martin <mdmartin@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > Do /s/ and /T/ have [z] and [D] as allophones, or are they
> > > always [s] and [T]?
> > >
> > > -- Christian Thalmann
> >
> > -
> >
> > Talking about /s/ being realized as [z]... Last night me and a few
> > friends watched the video version of the musical "Joseph and the Amazing
> > Technicolor Dreamcoat", and i was surprised to hear every single person
> > in it pronounce the name |Joseph| with a [z].  I've only ever heard [s]
> > in that name before.  Is that because the people i know are closer to
the
> > Hebrew form [josef], while officially the English version actually has
> > [z]?  Or does the English name itself have dialectal variants?
> >
>
>
> Hmm, well, being a Joseph myself, I would indeed say that [dZ@uzIf] is the
> normal(British) pronounciation.  [dZ@usIf] is possible as well, but less
> common.
And being a Joseph myself, son and grandson of the same, I would say that
[dZousVf] is the normal (American) pronunciation.