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Re: OT: Helen Keller & Whorf-Sapir

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Saturday, August 14, 2004, 13:09
Hallo!

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:33:00 -0700,
Samuel Rivier <samuelriv@...> wrote:

> >Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:20:01 -0500 > >From: "Mark P. Line" <mark@...> > >Subject: Re: OT: Helen Keller & Whorf-Sapir > > [...] > > >Another option is to entertain the possibility that > >the Sapir-Whorf > >hypothesis does not actually hold in its strong form.
Yep.
> > > >-- Mark > > Or my own hypothesis, which I held throughout my > Cultural Linguistics class, much to my professor's > dismay, which is that Sapir and Whorf are dumbasses > and language has little to no influence on thought.
I wouldn't call Sapir a dumbass; Whorf is another matter. (But even about Whorf I better stay silent because I am not a professional linguist, only a bloody amateur.) I also wouldn't say that language has *no* influence on thought; I think it does indeed influence thought, but only to some degree. Language is only one of many different things that influence thought, and in no way dominant; and the influence cuts both ways - thought also influences language. Just my two cents worth. Greetings, Jörg.

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