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Re: OT: Helen Keller & Whorf-Sapir

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 18, 2004, 18:24
On Aug 14, 2004, at 7:27 AM, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:

> Hallo! > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:33:00 -0700, > Samuel Rivier <samuelriv@...> wrote: > >> Or my own hypothesis, which I held throughout my >> Cultural Linguistics class, much to my professor's >> dismay, which is that Sapir and Whorf are dumbasses >> and language has little to no influence on thought. > > I wouldn't call Sapir a dumbass; Whorf is another matter. > (But even about Whorf I better stay silent because I am not > a professional linguist, only a bloody amateur.)
I would still not call Whorf a "dumbass". He provided two grammatical sketches for the _Linguistic Structures of Native America_, edited by Harry Hoijer; one for Toreva Hopi and one for Milpa Alta Nahuatl. Both sketches are still useful to this day (they were written in the 1930s-40s). You don't do that level of scholarly work if you're a "dumbass." Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga "Speech is human, silence is divine, yet also brutish and dead; therefore we must learn both arts." - Thomas Carlyle