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Re: OT: Helen Keller & Whorf-Sapir

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Friday, August 13, 2004, 12:30
Quoting Apollo Hogan <apollo@...>:

> I'll throw my two kopeks in here. I do set-theoretic topology and > I must say that I can only do mathematics where I can have some sort of > intuition of what is going on. This intuition is not necessarily visual > (in that I can draw a picture) but it certainly doesn't seem linguistic. > (My advisor does make fun of me for always drawing little pictures when I > explain proofs to him :-) Purely formal/symbolic proofs do little for me > until I can "unravel the symbols" and understand what's going on underneath. > Thus I am terrible at things like algebra and number-theory which can > sometimes > be very formal and symbolic. > > However, there are many mathematicians I know who claim the opposite. This > seems to be consistent with the idea that there are two approaches to > mathematics: continuous and discrete or geometric and symbolic or visual > and linguistic. (Granted both are necessary, but it seems many people have > psychological leanings toward one or the other. I am more > geometrical/visual.) > > The point of this is that it seems that there is vitally a _non-linguistic_ > part of mathematical thinging/intuition.
I don't do set theory, but basically I agree with Apollo, and would say that I too lean towards the visual perspective. Roger Penrose suggested somewhere, I think in The Emperor's New Mind, that the notion that thinking is inherently linguistic arose because the people who thought about thinking were philosophers, that is, members of a profession that, one might reasonably assume, tends to attract people who are linguistic rather than visual thinkers. Andreas