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Re: CHAT: Strictly CHAT: Uniates and sacraments (was: Brithenig/Aelyan

From:BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, April 15, 2000, 9:45
At 17:54 14.4.2000 -0400, bjm10@CORNELL.EDU wrote:

>"through the Son" could be acceptable, since it describes the ekonomia of >the Holy Spirit as Orthodoxy understands it. "and the Son" violates an >Orthodox principle that what any two Hypostases have in common, all have >in common.
How Platonic! IIRC even Rome admits Filioque was an addition. I suspect Ray considers it a matter of linguistic interface... Interestingly there is a similar controversy WRT to the status of incarnate (as opposed to the merely reborn) beings vis-à-vis the Enlightened Ones they are incarnations of. Some claim there is total identity, others that the relation is one which in western terms could, I suppose, be called hypostasis. The Dalai Lama himself describes it in English thus that he is an ordinary man, but his soul is divine. I might argue with the wording, if not with the intent -- who would I be to do so? /BP B.Philip Jonsson <mailto:bpj@...>bpj@netg.se <mailto:melroch@...>melroch@my-deja.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)