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Re: Language superiority, improvement, etc.

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Thursday, October 15, 1998, 20:11
Tom Wier wrote:

> The underlying logic behind saying _any_ > language is superior and that of racism are at heart the same.
I'd like to clarify this a bit: I was not imputing any kind of racist motivations on others here, but that I think it is inherently wrong-headed and needs to be rethought before we can proceed. The problem is this, as I see it: it sounds like people are thinking conlangs can be superior because they want to be able to do that with their own languages. There is nothing wrong in wanting to do that, but that _no one_ has presented any kind of theoretical underpinning to their thoughts, in any form. I would so dearly like to do that for my own conlang, but it is at base I think an entirely futile thing, because whatever I might think makes a constructed language superior will, surely, be said to be exactly what makes the same language _inferior_ (I'm reminded of the wars about the Esperanto use of the accusative -n). This is true for precisely the same reasons that, philosophically speaking, there can be no objective form of morality, because the mores of a certain people are based on certain underlying assumptions, for example, that the rule against murder is based on the idea that a person has a right to exist in and of himself, or alternately that no other person has the right to take away what is not his -- we _all_ believe this, I think, but what if you don't believe that a person has a right to exist, or that you can walk into a place and take away what belongs to another person arbitrarily? I mean, it may sound a little ludicrous, but that's a valid question which can't be easily answered, because it lies on the assumptions already mentioned. (For the above reasons, Kant argued that the only valid moral codes are those promulgated by God, because he at least is not subject to the mind body dichotomy on which these problems rest). Analogously, the question before us of whether or not a language can be superior is that way for exactly the same reason -- who's to say what makes a language superior _per se_? What feature can be shown, in absolute terms, to be better than another? I would just _love_ to hear what people's ideas about these are. :)