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Re: Language superiority, improvement, etc.

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Thursday, October 15, 1998, 4:44
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Definitely. I could create a conlang that was definitely inferior to > any natlang, so it seems logical that, if I had sufficient skill, I > could create on that was superior. Whether or not any human being has > sufficient skill is another question (and I'll partly define superior: > better able to describe a range of experiences, regardless of difficult=
y
> of learning)
But I think this opens Pandora's box again. We have just gone throughano= ther run of the question of whether or not it is possible for natlangs to be more logical or better than one another. What makes them different from conlangs? I mean, they are both products of the human mind, and of human societal interactions, and both sets of languages are in some se= nse also consious creations of people, insofar as natlangs are the creations = of communities, while conlangs are the creations, for the most part, of individuals. What makes conlangs any different _qualitatively_? Are they somehow not subject to the same laws that have governed language since the dawn of time? I think this concept is _highly_ suspect.
> > Value judgments are subjective. The scientific way of doing things i=
s to
> > use _objective_ data. > > It is contradictory to say "value judgements are bad", because "bad" is > a value judgement itself. "Value judgements are unscientific" is what > you're getting at. THAT is not self-contradictory.
Thank you all for clarifying. :) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tom Wier <artabanos@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." "Schlie=DFt den heil'gen Zirkel dichter, Schw=F6rt bei diesem goldnen Wein, Dem Gel=FCbde treu zu sein, Schw=F6rt es bei dem Sternenrichter!" - _Ode an die Freude_, J. F. von Schiller =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =0D