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Re: Language superiority, improvement, etc.

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 13, 1998, 22:39
Nik Taylor wrote:

> Gerald Koenig wrote: > > Vector tense time claims can be made as vague or nonexistent as you > > like, there is nothing obligatory about it. You choose your level of > > specifity. Is choice a bad thing? Is obligatory vagueness and > > imprecision a good thing? Or should it be used as an art form? Is it > > best for production contracts? > > Okay, granted *maybe* an artificial language could be superior to > natural languages (altho I'm rather skeptical that NGL's wonderful > features would remain in place if it *were* actually spoken), BUT of > natural languages, you can't say one is definitely better than another. > Japanese is superior to English for the Japanese culture, and English i=
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> superior to Japanese for English-speaking cultures.
But wait, remember, we are talking about the language as a whole. No matter what NGL proposes to add to its linguistic repertoir, by the very act of defining what it can do it defines what it can also _not_ do. Tha= t is, by not saying explicitly whether a given language has (e.g.) a system of honorifics, it is implicitly stating that there is no _coherent_ (i.e., o= rganized) system of honorifics available in the language. It could then be claimed= that that language is not as _easy_ (keeping questions of coherence/difficult= y away from ones of complexity), and therefore, not as good. _Ex hypothesi= _, there is no way to have a system of any kind of representation without limiting it, and so if there are limits, some people might think that tho= se things not allowed for in the system are exactly what they would want made explicit. It is still a question of subjectivity when you are talki= ng about artificial languages then, not just natlangs. :) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tom Wier <artabanos@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." "Schlie=DFt den heil'gen Zirkel dichter, Schw=F6rt bei diesem goldnen Wein, Dem Gel=FCbde treu zu sein, Schw=F6rt es bei dem Sternenrichter!" - _Ode an die Freude_, J. F. von Schiller =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =0D