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Re: Taxonomic list (and Re: poll 30? (long...Sal at her most voluble)

From:Robert B Wilson <han_solo55@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 4, 2003, 16:52
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:32:08 -0400 Sally Caves <scaves@...>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@...> > > > Sally: > > I should have a purely Teonaht word for "rose." > > > > Which reminds me, I preferred the native Teo words to the IE > borrowings. > > Partly because I prefer apriori conlangs, and partly because in an > > aposteriori artlang I want to be able to scrutinize it close up & > for > > it to still seem real. > > Yeah, a lot of the "Indo-European," or basically Latin borrowings > were > products of my graduate student years when I was studying historical > linguistics. I'm not overly fond of them either. I just now read > in _The > DaVinci Code_ that "rose"... oh, how did the dashing American > Harvard Prof > put it?... that the word for "rose" had little variation as it was > used > across the Mediterranean and Western worlds. Now immediately, of > course, my > warning signals went up. Come on, now... of course it's going to be > the > same in the romance languages. But could there be any truth behind > this? > What's "rose" in Hebrew? Greek? Damn that I don't have a Greek > dictionary!
i just did some research and i think the kinsi rorotan word for rose will be _sip-_... if it was borrowed later it could be _syp-_ (ca 550 ad-1400 ad), _symp-_ (ca 1400 ad-1850 ad), or _szymp-_ (ca 1850 ad-present), but such a borrowing would be historically very unlikely...
> Sally Caves
-- Robert Wilson (aka kuvazokad, eltirno, edeí...) -- vkky vnkynvj vknyknj ykkv knvy? karkalone kontoko? kinsi rorotan kinsa nadas? baitta ke farzaiyai? qxrracc pqqattiircx iia kxqqhwiiallccre? spreken þu viserdya? pake biru ka pa rede? "boys speak in rhythm and girls just lie." -- anberlin - "foreign language" "i put out disco's inferno in the early eighties i would not be in a boy band, punk gets all the ladies i could take the backstreet boys or hanson or n'sync britney spears and ricky martin, we all think you stink" -- trendy - "punk rocker" "and i'm only gonna pierce my left ear and i've been working on this mustache all summer long and my favorite band will always be tears for fears and i'm gonna wear a pink tux to the prom" -- relient k - "in love with the 80's" "don't try to shut me up don't try to put words in my mouth i'm not about plastic skin i gotta get out, i gotta get out, in" -- (hed) P.E. - "blackout" narav teraz' iroti kojes krat erarota kuna, ysivaz' entas naradas krat zuny narav kuraz dityvyszi, radyji, sa rodyji dimokrosi zosa endas d' erensa dades kirs ins wiz "They are not in Baghdad. They are not in control of any airport. I tell you this. It is all a lie. They lie. It is a hollywood movie. You do not believe them." -- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, Iraqi Minister of Information -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M/O d-(---) s: a18 C++$ UL++++>$ P+>++ L+(++)>++++ E--- W++(+++) N o? K--- w+(--) O?> M-- V? PS PE+ Y+(++) PGP++ t+(*) 5-- X+++ R- tv b+++ DI+ D--- G++++ e h! r-->+++ y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------