Re: OT: cyphers

I tried repeatedly to develop a cursive form, but was never happy with
the result.  I never had a case difference,  well, given the span of
years involved, "never" is an overstatement - I probably made case
distinctions at some point, but if I did it was most likely either
simple size or a diacritic.


On 12/10/07, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> On 2007-12-09 Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > So, take the nine pairs, alphabetize according to the
> > earliest member of the pair, and put them into the tic-tac-
> > toe grid; the dotted ones are the "voiced" sound:
> >
> >:  /p/+/b/   /t/+/d/   /f/+/v/
> >:  /k/+/g/   /r/+/l/    /n/+/m/
> >:  /s/+/z/   /S/+/Z/  /t/+/D/
> >
> > Then put the last four clockwise into the cross:
> >
> >:         /j/
> >:  /N/         /h/
> >:        /w/
> >
> > Vowels are represented by diacritics placed either under
> > the previous consonant or over the following, whichever
> > fits a given circumstance better: circumflex for /a/,
> > acute accent for /e/, grave accent for /i/, overdot for
> > /o/, and macron for /u/.
>
> Great minds think alike. That's freakishly close to my
> final setup.
>
> Did you also come up with cursive forms of the letters? I
> even had upper and lower case...
>
> BTW I misremembered the mapping of the lowest row in my
> setup: /N n m/ went in the voiced group and /x l w/ in the
> voiceless. Also it was /r/ which was voiced counterpart to
> /s/ and /l/ was 'voiceless' counterpart to /n/. I think I
> changed these things back and forth a bit, not being
> satisfied with the lowest voiceless row being a kind of
> waste basket housing sounds that didn't fit elsewhere. The
> basic problem was of course that there are more voiced than
> voiceless phonemes in Swedish.
>
> I can't remember the signs I used for vowels in the version
> where the vowels were diacritics above the consonants. I
> just remember they looked like dots, accents, Greek
> breathings etc. but not the values -- probably because I
> kept changing my mind.
>
> I do however remember the extra signs I used for [z S Z tS
> dZ] -- they were like /s C j t d/ with an extra descender.
> There was an /s/ with an ascender used for [ts] too. All of
> them used to write other languages like English, German,
> Latin, Italian, French -- i.e. the ones I studied in the
> _gymnasium_. I don't remember if/how I wrote Greek.
>
> Amazing how much I do remember after 20+ years!
>
> /BP 8^)>
> --
> Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient
>    à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil
>    ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*,
>    c'est qu'elles meurent."           (Victor Hugo)
>

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Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>