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Re: Transcription exercise

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, September 21, 2006, 3:03
Paul Roser wrote:

> The number of languages that distinguish two voiceless lateral fricatives is > quite small - off the top of my head, Bura, Cocopa, Northern Diegueno > distinguish dental/alveolar and palatalized/palatal versions, Toda and > A-hmao distinguish dental/alveolar and retroflex versions, and one of the > Central Highland languages of Papua (Wahgi or Nii IIRC) has voiceless > lateral fricative allophones of its *three* laterals - dental, alveolar, > velar, but I think they only contrast word-finally. > > Herman Miller's Virelli is one of the few conlangs I've seen with a > distinction between /hl, l/ and /hL, L/ (where L is the palatal lateral - HM > uses a cedilla or something under the palatal phones).
It shóuld technically be a comma below, but I use the precomposed ļ character for convenience. Using l̦ (with a comma-below diacritic) might not show up in some browsers and email programs.
> I think that the distinction is more audible when there is a very clear > front/palatal vs back/velar distinction between the two.
Or if there are additional clues to the point of articulation, such as palatal off-glides. Lindiga distinguishes between alveolar and retroflex lateral fricatives. I think this might be an easier distinction to hear than alveolar vs. palatal, but it's also helped by the allophonic variation of the vowels in the vicinity of retroflex consonants.