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Re: OT: Anthroponymics

From:Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 26, 2005, 22:32
Quoting Sylvia Sotomayor <terjemar@...>:

> On 10/26/05, Ph.D. <phil@...> wrote: > > Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > > > > João Ricardo de Mendonça wrote: > > > > > > > > Is this surname-into-given-name thing common in other > > > > countries as well? > > > > > > It's pretty common in the US. For instance, Addison is a > > > popular first name for girls. My last name, Reed, is a > > > common first name as well. CNN anchor Anderson > > > Cooper is a famous example - I would not blink if I were > > > introduced to a Cooper Anderson, either.
Surnames in English were originally locatives, eg Parish which derives from Paris the city, or work-related, eg Smith, Sawyer, Cooper, or ironic, ergo Monk, Priestly, Bishop, Pope. Eg, Thomas the Smith, or Henry from the Western Paddocks, or Simon who's acting like he's the Pope. And first names were well, use-names, nicknames, parent's names given at birth, insults, etc. There aren't any hard-and-fast rules separating them.
> > > > > > Yes, in the last ten or fifteen years, this has become a hot > > trend in the United States (among those of European > > ancestry). There are lots of children with first names such as > > Taylor, Madison, Morgan, and Conner, all of which are > > actually surnames.
Apparently Wesley is yet another such. In England it's a locative surname relating to the western side of some contested paddocks/leas in some time long past; in America it's a first name, and among the Australian/New Zealander/American expat conglomeration in Papua New Guinea last century it was acceptable for my NZ parents to name me after an American friend.
> > > > Among those of African ancestry, the trend seems to be > > to just select two or three random syllables. In Hispanic > > families I've met, it seems that all the girls have the first > > name Maria but with a different middle name: Maria Elena, > > Maria Teresa, etc. The first name is ignored, and the girls > > actually go by their middle names. > > > In my family, we did that with Elisa: Elisa Cecilia, Elisa Tina, Elisa > Andrea, etc.
Two of my mother's family take their personal names from their middle names - my mother and one of her brothers. Strange but true. I'm wondering if it was typical of her family in ages past, and so on and so forth.
> -- > Sylvia Sotomayor > terjemar@gmail.com > www.terjemar.net >
Wesley Parish "Sharpened hands are happy hands. "Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands" - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge "I me. Shape middled me. I would come out into hot!" I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press

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