|From:||Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>|
|Date:||Friday, February 12, 1999, 7:04|
>From Mathias L. Lassailly (who still cannot send posts to the conlang list):
>In Japanese some pronouns (from most to least polite) for 1st pers. :
>watakushi, watashi, boku, ore, etc. + old ones : washi, ware (as in
>'wareware'), wa ( as in 'wagakuni)
>and for 2nd pers. :
>(name+dono in edo films :-), name+sama, name+san, name+kun, anata, kimi,
>omae, temeeeee !!!! (you need white shoes and curled hair to yell that one:-)
>They do derive from nouns (omae = (polite) front).
>Non-topic pronouns are usually omitted and relations are shown with auxiliary
>verbs (from most to least polite) :
>1st->2nd (1 is active) : -sashiageru, -ageru, -yaru
>1st->2nd (2 is active) : -itadaku, -morau
>2nd->1st (2 is active) : -kudasaru, -kureru
>But there are 3 other main rules :
>1. other simpler verbal polite forms are used such as :
>2nd active => passive form : ex : kakaremasu : you write
>o+verb+ni naru : okaki ni narimasu : you write
>1st active => factitive+auxiliary : ex : kakasete itadakimasu : I go (you
>(polite) make me write).
>o+verb+suru : okaki shimasu : I write
>2. There are specific polite verbs :
>mooshiru (say), omeshini naru (eat), oru (be), irassharu (be, go), ome ni
>kakaru (see), etc.
>3. There are hundreds specific polite nouns such as :
>goshujin, okusan, okosan, etc.
>It's easy to get things wrong.
>So for sure, Amerindian languages and Tepa are not unique in that way.