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From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, February 12, 1999, 7:04
>From Mathias L. Lassailly (who still cannot send posts to the conlang list):
>In Japanese some pronouns (from most to least polite) for 1st pers. : >watakushi, watashi, boku, ore, etc. + old ones : washi, ware (as in >'wareware'), wa ( as in 'wagakuni) >and for 2nd pers. : >(name+dono in edo films :-), name+sama, name+san, name+kun, anata, kimi, >omae, temeeeee !!!! (you need white shoes and curled hair to yell that one
>etc. >They do derive from nouns (omae = (polite) front). >Non-topic pronouns are usually omitted and relations are shown with auxiliary >verbs (from most to least polite) : >1st->2nd (1 is active) : -sashiageru, -ageru, -yaru >1st->2nd (2 is active) : -itadaku, -morau >2nd->1st (2 is active) : -kudasaru, -kureru >But there are 3 other main rules : >1. other simpler verbal polite forms are used such as : >2nd active => passive form : ex : kakaremasu : you write >o+verb+ni naru : okaki ni narimasu : you write >1st active => factitive+auxiliary : ex : kakasete itadakimasu : I go (you >(polite) make me write). >o+verb+suru : okaki shimasu : I write >2. There are specific polite verbs : >mooshiru (say), omeshini naru (eat), oru (be), irassharu (be, go), ome ni >kakaru (see), etc. >3. There are hundreds specific polite nouns such as : >goshujin, okusan, okosan, etc. >It's easy to get things wrong. >So for sure, Amerindian languages and Tepa are not unique in that way. > >