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Racial Classification & credit line

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Thursday, January 1, 2004, 11:02
In a message dated 2004:01:01 01:43:07 AM, carrajena@YAHOO.COM writes:

>Well, I've always thought the Latinos (at least the >Mestizos) sould be classed as Pink since they are part >White and part Red. ;-) And Dravidians should be the >Purple race. I mean they're at least as purple as >Amerinds are red or Africans are black! *g*
::claps hands:: Bravo! I have had thoughts along those lines as well... In a message dated 2004:01:01 05:12:04 AM, etg@ALWAYSON-LINE.NET writes:
>I've seen pictures of people that have almost green skin. What race are >they?
Space Alien Invaders and Agent Provocateurs. Ya didn't KNOW that _They_ are already amongst us? (Ya hafta watch the movie-briefing titled _John Carpenter's Them_!) In addition, there are Greys, Silvers, Greenies, Chromies, ET-types, etc.. and ME!, hehe... and someone else wrote:
>>Those pictures are just messed-up. I mean, who's ever heard of people with >>green skin?!
I have had green skin when I was coming off a $750-800 a day heroin habit. In a message dated 2004:01:01 12:14:25 AM, andjo@FREE.FR writes:
>"Latinate" as a _race_? LOL ...
Earlier in this century & as late as the early 1960's in the US South, it was "Mediterranean"! I guess 1920's movieee-ssstaaahhhrrr "Latinate heart-throb" Valentino changed perspectives in only limited "engagements" across the USA.... LMAO Now even I finally begin to truly wonder how the bleuBlazin'Blazes I survived in South --- Texas mind you, where racial violence is shrugged off as "an Age Old Problem" (remember the recent lynchings in Texas?) well!, thank all thee Dark TricksterGods and Predator Gods that I be a weird pan-Asian mix o' Cantonese, FooChownese, Russian-Jew, Dutch-Indonesian and Sino-British with _all_ their Best & Nastiest Survivalist traits ... it's like havin' 5 Aces in hand... and an undisclosed number of Slickboy Aces up me sleeve next to the matchin' pair o' jade-handled .410 derringers and pushdaggers ;) and havin' this kinda Balls-To-Wall/Pedal-to-Metal/KickAss&TakeBloodyNames ancestry also makes it keenly important to Survive&Thrive at any cost - an persistent daily Obsession - considerin' the context I grew-up in ... Grewin up Tejasian just brought out the all these latent ancestral talents: "I _am_ not a liar, thief, killer or Cheat... THAT's My Credit-line and I am stickin ta it, Bubba... Ya wanna make it a Personal Issue and I'll be more-than-happy ta oblige ya and stick it in and out of you a few times till ya either suddenly grow up & cry 'Uncle' or ya die like a manjy dawgie..."
>Another victim of lacking racial classification scheme was an Iranian guy >I used to know; he had some fairly terrible views about black people, so >imagine his discomfort at coming to Sweden and realize that to many Swedish >racists, _he_ is black!
I have an Aussie friend with a very similar identity problem. He never thought much of African-Americans, but when he moved to Sydney he found himself being labelled Black even tho' he is only "partly Abo" (1/2). In a message dated 2004:01:01 12:30:33 AM, valardil@YAHOO.COM writes:
>there is a big difference genetically between north and south chinese
I wish that were absolutely true, but what I know is that Northern Chinese and Southern Chinese differences are more of socio-cultural type than socio-biological. BUT the line be-twixting socio-cultural typologies and socio-biological ones is waaay too close or non-existent for comfort in China... to the point where hatreds 'tween Northern Han (more Mongol/Manchu/Altaic than Han-ish) and Southern Han (hardcore Han, more "pure Sino-Tibetan" and/or Austro-Tai than anything else) are practical instinctive kneejerk/goosestep responses a la cats and dogs... Then there are the Western Han (more Turkic/Uighyr than Han)... It's a SinoTibetan-Austro-Tai 3 ring circus plus sideshows starrin' the Tibetans, the Mongogolians, the Naxi & other so-call "tribal minorities"... and then further complicatin' things are the Taiwanese... and all the multitudes of Overseas Chinese... I have even seen people growl, snarl, spit and foam at the mouth... and even bite each other upon hearing confirmation of their worst fears about where another is from or what family line they are from! tres UG-LY! In a message dated 2004:01:01 01:09:52 AM, carrajena@YAHOO.COM writes:
>Well the ethnic Chinese classify *eachother* as >"black" or "white" based on pigmintation. I was >frequently "complimented" for being so white (all the >while trying to get some reasonable tan without >burning!).
Yepyep... we Cantonese are the niggers of course... Mandarins think themselves to bein' the Mighty Whitey Blue-Blood Wonderbreads of Greater China and all it's Provinces in the World...
>My students were quite astounded when they learned >that I concidered my shade of white to be unhealthy >and unattractive looking.
Pretty sick (MANDARIN), eh? It hints of definite self-identity problems (ABCs = American Born Chinese) amongst the modern "mainstream of Chinese" everywhere. --- º°`°º ø,¸¸,ø º ° ° º ø ¸ , ø º º ø ø º Hanuman Zhang, _Gomi no sensei_ [Master of junk] "To live is to scrounge, taking what you can in order to survive. So, since living is scrounging, the result of our efforts is to amass a pile of rubbish." - Chuang Tzu/Zhuangzi, China, 4th Century BCE "The most beautiful order is a heap of sweepings piled up at random." - Heraclitus, Greece, 5th Century BCE "...So what is life for? Life is for beauty and substance and sound and colour; and even those are often forbidden by law [socio-cultural conventions]. . . . Why not be free and live your own life? Why follow other people's rules and live to please others?..." ~Lieh-Tzu/Liezi, Taoist Sage (c. 450- c. 375 BCE) "Taoism in a nutshell: Shit Happens. Roll with the Punches. Hang 10 - Go with the Flow!" - anonymous California surfer/Beatnik,circa late 1950's/early 1960's Ars imitatur Naturam in sua operatione. [Latin > "Art is the imitation of Nature in her manner of operation."] "...There is life feeding on this dead heap. ... life will complete its cycle, teeming within this lump of death." - Bela Bartok "jinsei to iu mono wa, kichou na geijyutsu to ieru deshou" [Japanese > "one can probably say that 'life' is a precious artform"] "Art is an antidote for violence. It gives the ecstasy, the self-transcendence that could otherwise take the form of drug addiction, terrorism, suicide, or warfare." - Rollo May "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats." - Albert Schweitzer "Life'n'art, art'n'life. There is _no_ separation. Each is a manifestation of every aspect of the other. This is a difficult game... A difficult game to play. It seems, to me, like the only game that needs playing at the moment." - Warren Burt


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