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Re: Tíngrjsil etabnammity

From:Julien Eychenne <je@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 29, 2003, 7:25
JS Bangs wrote:

> The consonants come in two sets, palatalized and unpalatalized (a la > Slavic or Irish Gaelic), though some sound shifts have made the palatal > label convenient rather than descriptive. Here's a quick rundown: > > Non-palatalized Palatalized > ------------------------------ > p t k p' ts,tS tC > b d g b' dz dj\ > f s x f' S C > v z v' Z > m n m' J > l K\ > r z` > > The vowels are seven: > ---------------- > i 1 u > e @ o > a > > Here's where the fun comes in. Palatalization is indicated by the vowels, > not the consonants. The vowels /i e/ always provoke palatalization, and > the vowels /@ 1/ sometimes do. The vowels /u o a/ never palatalize (except > sometimes). > > In the orthography, we write the full vowels /i e u o/ as |í é ú ó|. The > unaccented versions are used for the central vowels: |e| for /@/ when the > preceding consonant is palatalized, otherwise |o|, and |i| for [1] when > the preceding consonant is palatalized, otherwise |u|. Thus, we get the > following syllables: > > ki ke ku ko ka kí ké kó kú > tC1 tC@ k1 k@ ka tCi tCe ko ku
I do love the fact that /@/ palatalizes a consonant and the way orthography indicates it. It might be the case that schwa comes from */e/ and */o/ (who merged), and /e/ reported its palatality on a preceding consonant, as it often happens. And maybe this just what you have in mind (?). However (WARNING : I may be wrong ;)), if orthography is somehow related to phonology, I'm not sure whether /1/ causing palatalization is a realistic phenomenon. This is quite common that vowels palatalize consonants and reduce themselves to schwa, but I'm not sure we find in natural languages /1/ causing palatalization. But maybe the fact that vowels indicate palatalization is not phonological but only orthographic. If so, then my remark is meaningless ;).
> There are some front vowels that don't palatalize, though, and for those > we put an |a| between the consonant and the vowel.
This is particularly interesting, and looks nice in your examples. I have just one question : do you use |a| for both /6/ and "depalatalization" diacritic ? Julien -- "Well be a lot longer discovering the future if we dont recover the past" John Anderson


JS Bangs <jaspax@...>