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Re: noun forms of verbs

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Monday, November 19, 2001, 6:19
Kou wrote:
>I don't see why not. As others have pointed out, there is the word "eats", >referring to food. I personally don't see it as archaic,
Since I've it's been in use within my lifetime, I was somewhat non-plussed to see it called "archaic"! I didn't realize it
>was an Americanism, and while my travel experiences within the 48 have been >almost exclusively limited to the great state of New England, I consider it >current usage, albeit rather "down home" (I mostly use it for humorous >effect, usually as "good eats" [which almost never are]).
That matches my experience(s) too.
> >Still, if *I* were you, I'd wanna to come up with some synonyms, too
mainly
>because I think things will start doubling up, and I, personally, hate >expressions like "dance a dance", "dream a dream", "walk a walk", etc. >(there's a word for these).
Tautologies, perhaps.
>Case in point, in Géarthnuns, the word for "play" is "íönsel"; the word for >"game" is "íönsels". Now if you think I'm going to allow an expression like >"sí íönselsít íönsel" for "play a game" in *my* lang, you've got another >thing coming. To get around it, you say "sí íönselsíts dravnath" (lit:
"make
>a game"), and allow "íönsel" with specific game names. There are other >instances where this sort of thing crops up (which escape me now), and >similar circumlocutions have been devised (I don't want "dravnath" >["do/make"] to be the catch-all default, but it *is* handy).
That's a problem in any language with regular derivational patterns. Indonesian makan makanan, tari tarian, nyanyi nyanyian (ugh again) . Alas, Kash, too, and like you I try to find ways to avoid it.