In a message dated 11/17/01 10:53:35 PM, fuzzybluemonkeys@YAHOO.COM writes:
>--- Josh Roth froge sionk:
>> Another example: in
>> Hebrew /oxel/ as a verb means "eat" and as a noun means "food" (the
>> thing eaten), not "eater," but look at the word /roked/ - as a verb
>> it means "dance", and as a noun it means "dancer."
>
>ha yes... i'm actually prepared for this... in order to make a verb
>into a noun that refers to a person who does the action in question
>you would first add an "a" (signifying plurality)and then add an "n"
>after than to make it singular
>tevil= to eat
>tevila= eaters
>tevilan= eater
>or
>thetre= to laugh
>thetrea= laughers (people who are laughing... i don't know if this is
>used in english)
>thetrean= laugher (person who is laughing... same comment as above)
Interesting that to make the singular you have to add on the plural rather
than the other way around.... Are other nouns in the language like this too?
>but in order to say food/"eats" (though not necessarily cheap) or
>laughter it would follow the rule of reduplication of the first
>consonant with a vowel following it prefixed to the
>stem/root/whatchamacalit (this works for some verbs and all
>adjectives at the moment)so:
>
>tetevil= food
>hethetre= laughter
>
>i'm not sure if i explained that very well (it does all make sense in
>my mind... well somewhere in there... you might need a flashlight and
>some shovels...)
Makes sense to me.
Actually now that I think about it ... the relationship isn't totally clear.
You eat food, but you laugh a laugh. I suppose you can also laugh laughter,
but "laughter" can also mean "laughing" ... while "food" does not mean
"eating." Hmmm...
verb - object - action
eat - food - eating
laugh - laugh/laughter - laughter/laughing
Would these correspond to:
tevil - tetevil - x
thetre - hethetre - y
where x and y are words I don't know in you language?
I think it's English that's the problem here. :-)
(Ever notice how after you look at the same word too many times, it starts to
look very odd? Laugh, laugh, laugh....)
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