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Re: polysynthetic languages

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Sunday, September 28, 2003, 23:48
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@F...> wrote:

> >Well, if Narbonosc has it, I'm sure Kerno will > >want one too! How does it work? > > Just add a dative personal pronoun to your sentence. Even if there's > already one in, you may add it :)) (for instance, in French you can
say:
> "Je te lui est absolument rien donné !" where "lui" is the true
dative -
> since you give something *to* someone :)) - while "te" is the
ethical dative). So "est" is the 1sg form nowadays? ;-) I still don't quite understand what function this "te" has in this context. The one with the child who doesn't eat was kinda intuitive; it could be interpreted as "the child doesn't eat anything *from* me", or that the child does that *to me* out of sheer malice. That makes me sense. =P But in the sentence above? (BTW, consider the structure adopted into Jovian. Can't stay behind if even the Kemrese have it! Id cinde mic esse nile!)
> Most Romance conlangs still have a separate dative at least with the > personal pronouns. The "ethical dative" is never used with anything
else
> but pronouns (or agreement marks in the case of Euskara) anyway.
So what does the "ethical" mean here? -- Christian Thalmann

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