Re: PoS & heretics (was: Cases and Prepositions (amongst others))

At 01:06 21.6.2000 +0000, Oskar Gudlaugsson wrote:
>>> >Ray Brown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >><soap-box>
>>> >>This is one reason that I, personally, do not like the idea of
>>> >>part-of-speech notation in an conIAL; it seems to me that one is
>>>forcing
>>>a
>>> >>particular speech pattern - essentially Latin-based - onto something I
>>>feel
>>> >>would be better with the flexibility of English & Chinese.
>>> >><end of soap-box>
>>
>>Not to mention that Arabic "technically" only has three parts of speech:
>>verbs, nouns and particles (prepositions, conjunctions, relatives,
>>demonstratives, definite article).  And most nouns are forms of verbs
>>anyway.  Adjectives are in effect verbs of state.
>
>Good point. The current definitions in traditional grammar often seem quite
>shaky, just as recent discussions here on cases & prepositions have
>revealed. Perhaps not completely shaky, but very much based on IE grammar.
>Or that's how I perceive it.
I think that the scheme I came up with for Eurial represents a good
compromise --  not that the problem is that grave with a lang intended only
for Europe.

         -e      noun
         -a      transitive active verb
         -i      state verb, adjective, active participle
         -u      passive verb, passive participle
         -o-     "nominalcompound"
The last means that -o- is used instead of -e- when both parts of a
compound are nouns.  Wonder if anybody would employ/appreciate the
distinction _centrourbe_ vs. _centriurbe_ (center of city vs. central
city).  BTW both _centro urbe_ and _centri urbe_ should be OK
spellings.  It is the -o-, not the ASCII 32 character that gives
compound/not compound status.



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