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Werewolf (was: Weekly Vocab #1.1.1 (repost #1))

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Friday, September 15, 2006, 16:08
Philip Newton wrote:
> On 9/5/06, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Carsten Becker writes: >> > >> 2. werewolf / lycanthrope of some variety >> > >> > ayvengaryo (lit. "wolf-man") >> >> Interesting. Did you have a particular reason to decide to reverse >> the typical order for compounding?
Typical? Doesn't it rather depend upon whether a language forms head+attribute or attribute+head compounds?
>>All the languages in which I know >> the word 'werewolf' compound it as 'man-wolf'. > > "Lycanthrope" is a counter-example :) (lykos, wolf; anthropos, human)
Yes, indeed. Greek _lykanthropos_ <-- lykos = wolf + anthropos = human being. French has _loup-garou_ (plural: loups-garous) where the 'wolf' element (loup) is clearly first. but _garou_ is, of course, not the French for 'man'; it is from Old French _garoul_ which is from Frankish (a Germanic lang) *werwulf. While Spanish has _hombre lobo_ (man wolf), it sister langs of Galician & Portuguese put the 'wolf' first, thus: Galician: lobisón; Portuguese: lobisomem. Italian _lupo mannaro_ also puts 'wolf' first (The etymology of _mannaro_ is uncertain. Some derive it from a Germanic mann- (man); others derive the phrase from an earlier *lup'umanario "humanish wolf"). Before someone asks, Latin merely has _uersipellis_ ("skin-changer") :) -- Ray ================================== ================================== Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu. There's none too old to learn. [WELSH PROVERB}


Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>