Re: CHAT French undies (was: Re: Linguistic Terminology)

Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> >I'd double check with a native speaker, but for my money, e accent aig=
u
> >as in liberte' *is* pronounced /e/ (though not with the English
> >offglide), not /E/. You can hear the difference in verb conjugations:
> >past participle - regarde' /RYgaRde/ vs. imperfect - regardais
> >/RYgaRdE/. Or fe'e /fe/ fairy vs. fait /fE/ fact. Etc.
>
>  As a native speaker, I can say that Kou is totally right. 'libert=E9' =
is
> pronounced /libEr'te/ with both /e/ and /E/ (a good word to make the
> difference between those two sounds).
>  As for 'lingerie', it's pronounced in French exactly /lE~Z'ri/, where
> /E~/ is the nasal at the same place of articulation as /E/. the first
> 'e' is mute.
Sorry for the misinformation here.  I don't speak French, and so am
prone to make the same mistakes I see in print, or perhaps, can confuse
examples easily.  I think I saw something to that effect, but good
Chomskyan that I am, I bow in favor of the native speaker's testimony. :)

In any event, I don't think it alters the basic thrust of my argument, th=
ough.
If "libert=E9" is not an example, one could easily be found (and you gave
some examples which agree with this).

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