Re: drinking a drink

It looks like a very useful concept. It certainly saves a lot of
repetitiveness, and a lot of breath if replacing multisyllable words.
Zlo seems to be almost, but not quite like a pronoun. Hmm, Slaalehg
ihKreen has a similar redundancy problem... I might just have to
'borrow' this idea ;)

Garrett Jones wrote:
> i have thought of this type of rendundancy ("drinking a drink"), and have
> deliberated for a long period of time on how to handle it in Minyeva.
> Because of the structure of Minyeva, this situation occurs more often in the
> language than in English. take the derivatives of the word "to know (how to
> do something)":
>
> tone le u fe
> know I  FOC it
> I know it
>
> le        tone i   va  u   fe
> I  (make) know PAT him FOC it
> I taught it to him
>
> le dji  tone i   va  u   fe
> I  keep know PAT him FOC it
> I review him on it
>
>
> - So, i have come up with a catch-all redundancy word. I have no idea what
> to call it, and i don't know if it's an ANADEWISM.
>
> zlo = [FIT] entity fitting the semantic range of the case role it is in,
> with respect to the verb.
>
> - that was quite a mouthful, but here are a few examples:
>
> zlo te         tone i   va
> FIT-the (make) know PAT him
> the teacher taught him.
>
> - the interlinear is near undecipherable here. basically, "zlo" here means
> "the entity that causes someone else to know how to do something". In other
> words, a teacher. the "zlo" here has the same meaning as the minyeva word
> "ja'tone", which means teacher. Without the word "zlo", the sentence sounds
> a little redundant:
>
> ja'tone te tone i va.
> the teacher taught him.
>
> - with the word for "student" as the patient, it gets even more redundant,
> with all the "tone"s scattered about:
>
> ja'tone te         tone i   ji'tone-the
> teacher-the (make) know PAT student-the
> the teacher taught the student
>
> - with the word "zlo", this becomes:
>
> zlo te         tone i   zlo te
> FIT-the (make) know PAT FIT-the
> the teacher taught the student.
>
> - for drinking, this looks like:
>
> le luti  i   ja'luti da
> I  drink PAT a drink
> i drank a drink
>
> vs.:
>
> le luti  i   zlo da
> I  drink PAT FIT-a
> i drank a drink
>
> what does everyone make of this?
> --
> Garrett Jones
> http://www.alkaline.org
>