Re: Hail Mary
|Date:||Tuesday, November 29, 2005, 23:01|
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:48:11 -0000, caeruleancentaur
>>wonderful experience. I hope some day I can record some of my
>>Senjecan translations. I don't yet know how to do that.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Carsten Becker <naranoieati@B...>
>I hope so. Actually, I cannot imagine how to pronounce all those
>sounds like l_0 and r_0. I know now how to pronounce m_0, though.
I had an interesting experience with m_0. I began Senjecan by using
a "w" for this phoneme, beause I wanted an unvoiced bilabial. Then
I realized that the unvoiced phoneme also needed to be nasal. So I
went to "w^" (U+0175), then to "m^," then to "µ," then to the Anglo-
Saxon wynn (U+01BF) (looks rather like a snooty "p"). But as I was
reading text, for some reason, I could never recognize the phoneme
from the grapheme I was using! I finally went to the IPA "m with
hook" and voilà, that was the key. Now I can breeze through a text
without faltering. The grapheme looks like an "m" but with a bit of
a difference (U+0271). Weird, huh? The only drawback is that it is
not found in the Comic sans MS font which I like very much, so my
text is always sprinkled with Lucinda "m's." The same problem
exists with "c with curl" (U+0255) and "z with curl" (U+0291) that I
use for /ts)/ and /dz)/ respectively.
I also had trouble learning j_0. It sounds so much like an "h." I
finally taught myself to form carefully the /j/ with my lips and
tongue, then move on to the vowel. It sounds rather like an "h" but
the lips are in a different position, the position for /i/. I have
read that some phoneticists consider "h" to be an unvoiced vowel.
The lips take the position of the vowel to follow. When pronouncing
j_0 one must put the lips in the /j/ (/i/) position and exhale
voicelessly, then reform them to pronounce and voice the following
vowel. I use "h with bar" for this phoneme to remind me of what it
sounds like and what it doesn't sound like.
I have written a history of the Senjecan orthography with dates and
places of the adoption of the various graphemes. Unfortunately, I
can't present it to the list because so many of the graphemes are
not reproducible in the list. And I use charts.