Re: Kosi grammar sketch

--- Trebor Jung <treborjung@...> wrote:

> I'd like to present the gazillionth version of the
> Kosi grammar sketch. It
> now has almost 350 entries in the dictionary, and
> things have changed since
> April when I presented this language last.
>
> http://wiki.frath.net/index.php?title=Kosi
>
> Comments?
Hm..I liked it. I like Finno-Ugric Languages, they
were  big inspiration for Silindion and a source of
some loan words (as was unconscious and conscious
borrowings from Quenya, and deliberate Indo-European
borrows)

....I was especially surprised to see Silindion listed
as a source of some words. I take no offense at you
taking my words, and I think it's pretty cool. I
searched your vocabulary for cognates and
borrowings..and came up with an impressive list. I
think most of them are chance similarities, common
Finno-Ugric borrowing or common Indo-European
borrowings. I'd like to know which of them are
directly from Silindion:


1) Kosi: antah- "to grant"
   Silindion: antandiello "to dedicate"
              anta "granting that, if"
              ante "granted that, since"
              antanampra "generous"
   Old Nindic:  antha-r "he gives"

2) Kosi: behi "cow"
   Silindion: voni "bovine"
   Nindic:    bo "herd"

3) Kosi: dme "tomorrow"
   Common Nindic: *du@ me "that day"
   Silinestic Root UD@ "DAY"
   (slightly a stretch)

4) Kosi: dom "hill"
   Silindion:  lumpa "slope"
 (l and d sometimes alternate in Silinestic root
words)

5) Kosi: e "not"
   Silinestic Root GE "NO, NOT"
   Silindion: ei "he did not" (negative auxiliary)
              e-allo "to not do X"

6) Kosi: et- "understand"
   Silinestic Root: ID "KNOW"
   Nindic: iddi "to know"

7) Kosi: hari "stone"
   Silindion: kira "stone, rock"

8) Kosi: ildis "star"
   Silindion: el-ion "evening star"
              olos "stary'
              el-kanu "star host"

9) Kosi: kirja "boat"
   Silindion: krima "ship"
   West Silic: kilija "ship"

10) Kosi: kohim- "lie down"
    Silindion:  koimiello "to lie down"
                koima "bed"
    (from Greek I think...  keimai "I lie down")

11) Kosi: kula "gold"
    Poetic Silindoin: ulti  *go:lte:
    Silinestic Root: GEL "GOLD"

12) Kosi: lak- "ride"
    Silinestic Root: LAK "RIDE"
    Silindion: lanka "horse"
               layello "to ride"

13) Kosi: nae "big"
    Silindion: nai "great"
               naini "more"

14) Kosi: nehit- "increase, augment"
    Silindion: neityello "to increase, augment"

15) Kosi: nomjosau- "to give a name to"
    Silindion: namariello "to be named"
               namiello "to name"

16) Kosi: o"  "night" (sorry for not putting the
umlaut over it)
    Silindion: yomme "night'
    Silinestic Root: YO "NIGHT"
    Silindion: nimyo "night-bird"

17) Kosi: sek "chair"
    Silindion: sikos "throne"

18) Kosi: sim "eye"
    Silindion: tilma "eye"
    Lannelka (Northern Silic): silm /siwm/

19) Kosi: sol "sun"
    Silindion: sule "orb in the sky"
    Nindic: sul "orb"

20) Kosi: ves "water'
    Silindion: vatha "lake"

So...which ones was I right about?

Elliott Lash



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