Re: NATLANG: French spelling questions
From: | Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> |
Date: | Sunday, February 29, 2004, 15:28 |
Damned, I also spoke too fast. I forgot of *suggerer*
(e acute on the 1st e), *suggestion*, etc.
If you cut that word into syllables, it will be:
*sug-ge-rer*, from Latin *sug-gerere*, probably a
deformation of *sub-gerere*. So in fact, there is no
special pronunciation for *gg* in French, as each g
belongs to a different syllable. Before e and i, g is
normally pronounced like *zh*.
--- Remi Villatel <maxilys@...> wrote:
> Remi Villatel wrote:
>
> >> Are there any French words that contain _gg_
> >> pronounced [gZ]. BTW are there any words
> >> with [gZ] at all?
>
> > I don't think so. No [gZ] but [gz] in French. And
> if I encounter an italian
> > word with "gg", I would instinctively pronounce it
> [dZ].
> >
> > arpeggio [aRpEdZjo]
>
> Well, I spoke too fast... Trebor is right, [gZ]
> exists in French.
>
> <suggérer> [sygZeRe] = to suggest
> <suggestibilité> [sygZEstibilite] = suggestibility
> <suggestif> [sygZEstif] = suggestive
> <suggestion> [sygZEstjO~]= suggestion
> <suggestionner> [sygZEstjone] = to influence by
> means of suggestion
> <suggestivité> [sygZEstivite] = suggestivity
>
> People often pronouce these "gg" just [Z]. In my
> mouth, they sound more like
> [?Z], not so far from [dZ] (Too much english! ;-)
> or [Z.Z]
>
> <Je suggère que...> [Z2 syZ.ZE:Rk2] = I suggest
> that...
> <Si je peux faire une suggestion...> [si Sp2
> fERyn:sy?ZEs.sjO~]
> = If I can make a suggestion...
>
> To pronouce "stion" as [s.sjO~] instead of [stjO~]
> belongs to my local lect.
> Definitively country ways! ;-)
>
> See ya,
>
> =====================
> Remi Villatel
> maxilys@normandnet.fr
> =====================
=====
Philippe Caquant
"Le langage est source de malentendus."
(Antoine de Saint-Exupery)
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