|From:||SMITH,MARCUS ANTHONY <smithma@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, August 5, 2001, 20:21|
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:
> <rueful look> If [M] is the "upside down m" (rendered in
> Kirschenbaum as [u-]?) I liked it too, but there was something in my
> abortive attempt at taking a phonology/phonetics intro class that
> suggested the [M] was asymmetric and it *should* be [u].
> I stole it off Japanese...I did want to keep it. <sigh> Do you
> think the linguistics/phonology police might catch me if I changed it
They might catch you, but they wouldn't be able to book you since there
are natlangs that way (as you mention, Japnese).
> I was trying to figure out how in the heck you would hear a [?]
> before a vowel <rueful look> since the prof for that class told us
> that technically when you say a vowel (without something else before
> it??) there's always a glottal stop, so if you said [qaItSaref] by
> itself, how would you know? :-/
Believe me, you can hear the difference between glottal initial and vowel
initial. It isn't always easy, but it can be done, especially in
continuous speech. [...as ?a...] sounds different than [...as a...].