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Re: Number

From:SMITH,MARCUS ANTHONY <smithma@...>
Date:Sunday, August 5, 2001, 20:21
On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:

> <rueful look> If [M] is the "upside down m" (rendered in > Kirschenbaum as [u-]?) I liked it too, but there was something in my > abortive attempt at taking a phonology/phonetics intro class that > suggested the [M] was asymmetric and it *should* be [u]. > I stole it off Japanese...I did want to keep it. <sigh> Do you > think the linguistics/phonology police might catch me if I changed it > back...?
They might catch you, but they wouldn't be able to book you since there are natlangs that way (as you mention, Japnese).
> I was trying to figure out how in the heck you would hear a [?] > before a vowel <rueful look> since the prof for that class told us > that technically when you say a vowel (without something else before > it??) there's always a glottal stop, so if you said [qaItSaref] by > itself, how would you know? :-/
Believe me, you can hear the difference between glottal initial and vowel initial. It isn't always easy, but it can be done, especially in continuous speech. [ ?a...] sounds different than [ a...]. Marcus