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Re: Proto-Quendian (and PIE) phonology (was Re: Q (Caucasian Elf))

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Sunday, February 25, 2001, 12:10
Jörg Rhiemier wrote:
>Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> writes: > > > Jörg wrote: > >[PQ consonant system snipped] > > > Some would tell you that Tolkien's PQ also had a few palatalized sounds: >t', > > d', k', n' (I'm probably forgetting one or a few) that could contrast > > against mere clusters ty, dy, ky, ny. One of the points of this would be > > that it's easier to understand how Quenya _Solonyeldi_ can correspond to > > Amanya Telerin _Soloneldi_ while Quenya _Vanyar_ corresponds to Amanya > > Telerin _Vaniai_. > >These two examples seem to indicate that there were two different >phonemes in play, at least when accepting the Neogrammarian approach; >one of the forms might be irregular, or it is conditioned by the >following vowel: > >*nj > ni / _{a, o, u} >*nj > n / _{e, i} > >or anything like that. Or PQ *nj always goes to *ni, but *ie > e and >*ii > i in the next step. No need for a contrast between /nj/ and /n'/.
Nice. Still doesn't explain how Noldorin can have _nâr_ from _nyadrô_ and _bronio_ (_bronia-_) from *_b'ronjâ_.
> >And finally take notice that my PQ is not the same as Tolkien's PQ, and >that the phonology of my PQ is not yet fixed. In fact, the existence or >non-existence of a palatal series is one of the major open questions in >"my-PQ" phonology. I think I'll get along without one. After all, this >is not the protolanguage of Quenya, Amanya Telerin and Sindarin, but of >Nur-ellen, Caledonian, Iverinic and Macaronesian.
It was not clear from you message whether your PQ was intended or not to be related to Tolkiens from the internal viewpoint, so I thought you'd maybe appreciate input on it. Of course, you don't seem to displeased anyway :-) Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at